Showing posts with label Sunday's Obituary. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Sunday's Obituary. Show all posts

Sunday, 19 October 2014

Sunday's Obituary - Donald Fleming

Wangaratta Chronicle, Saturday December 24th, 1921                                                                                                                                     Mr. Donald Fleming died suddenly on Thursday afternoon, Thursday 22nd December, 1921, at his home in King Valley.  He appeared to be in his normal state of health that day but about 4 o'clock he collapsed and died.  The occurrence was reported to Constable Harry, of  Whitfield, and an inquiry was held by J.J. Stephens, J.P. of Whitfield when a verdict of death from natural causes was recorded.

The late Mr. Fleming was a son of Mr. and Mrs W.F. Fleming of Edi and 62 years of age.  Born at Castlemaine and after some years residence in the Goulburn Valley district he settled at King Valley about 30 years ago, and there with Mrs. Fleming and members of his family carried on mixed farming, dairying receiving most of his attention.

Mr. Fleming took an interest in many district movements and was an active worker towards their success. He was a member of the King Valley school committee and a trustee of the cemetery. He was well respected in the district and the news of his sudden death was heard of with deep regret by the residents.

Mr. Fleming, who was married at Echuca to Margaret Hart is survived by his wife and grown up family of 10 children. Members of the family are:- Messrs Alf (Melbourne), who was the 14th man to enlist in the A.I.F. rising to the rank of lieutenant: Donald; Archie; and Harold Fleming (King Valley)
Mesdames H. Crockett; Black; and Routledge (of Albury); Mrs A Barry (Myrtleford) and Misses Nellie and Myrtle Fleming (King Valley)

Brothers and sisters of the deceased are:- J.K. Fleming (Wangaratta); W.J. Fleming (Northcote) and M. Fleming (Wyalong NSW) Mesdames Tuckett (Kensington); Worrall (Brunswick); and Thompson (Nth Melbourne)

Interred at King Valley ? (Edi) cemetery yesterday. G.V. Steele in charge of arrangements.


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My great grandfather, Donald Fleming, was born on the 16th of December, 1860 at Spring Hill.  The third child of eleven and second son of William Finlay Fleming and Ann Jane nee Knight who settled at Kotupna, Northern Victoria in the 1870s and in 1901 moved to the King Valley in the North East.

Sunday, 7 September 2014

Sunday's obituary - Mary Ann/Marrian Morgan nee Pike

MRS MARRIAN MORGAN

THE EUROA ADVERTISER, FRIDAY, AUGUST 11, 1933.

The death occurred at her residence, Euroa, on Friday last, of Mrs Marrian Morgan, one of the oldest and most highly respected residents of the district. The late Mrs Morgan was one of the earliest residents, coming to this district in 1851, with her widowed mother, at the age of four years, and has thus resided here for 82 years. She was born in Loddon district, and had a good recollection of the early days, recalling an occasion, when she resided in the north, her mother had to leave her children and cross the Murray, a mile wide in flood, in a frail boat, to obtain provisions. They did not expect their mother to return safely. After her marriage she resided for many years on a farm a few miles from Euroa, near Mr G. Harrison’s. She raised a large family, four of whom, with her husband, pre-deceased her. Her eldest son, John, was drowned in the Seven Creeks, near the Sydney road bridge, in flood time. For many years the late Mrs Morgan had resided in the town. The possessor of a kindly and genial nature, she held the affection of a large circle of friends and relatives. She leaves an adult family of one daughter (Mrs A. McNay, Yarrawonga), and eight sons, all of whom are well known here and held in high respect. The funeral took place on Sunday last. The graveside service was read by Rev. L. Hume. The pall bearers were Messrs, H., Edward, George and Arch Morgan, S. T. McNay, G. McCoomb and N. McCoomb; the coffin bearers were Messrs G., R., A., J., E., and F. Morgan, and Messrs T., J., and George Morgan jr., acted as flower bearers. Mr T. G. Ferguson carried out the funeral arrangements.





Mary Ann Pike was my maternal great great grandmother.  She was born on May 10 1847 in the district of Murchison, Victoria to parents John Pike and Isabella nee Beaton.

Mary Ann had two sisters, Jane born 1843 and Eliza born 1844 both at Murchison.  

Mary Ann married Thomas Fitzherbert Morgan on the 11th of April 1866 at Euroa.



"Kindly and genial nature" must have run in the family. 
Their son, William Thomas Morgan, known as Bill, was my great grandfather.  He died before I was born and I had never thought to ask my mum what he was like.  A few months ago I asked my auntie and she described him as kind and gentle which is also exactly how I would describe his daughter, my grandmother, Daisy.




Mary Ann and Thomas Morgan had thirteen children:

  • John (1867 - 1874)
  • Thomas Fitzherbert 2nd (1868 - 1943)
  • George (1870 - 1957)
  • William Thomas (1872 - 1950)
  • Robert Maurice (1873 - 1952)
  • Alexander Frederick (1875 - 1946)
  • Isobela Sarah (1877 - 1946)
  • John Pike (1879 - 1953)
  • Maurice (1881 - 1882)
  • Edward Richard (1883 - 1959)
  • Benjamin (1885 - 1910)
  •  Marion (1889 - 1924
  • Frederick Alexander (1891 - 1939)

Sunday, 23 February 2014

Sunday's Obituary - Joseph Hulme

 My great great grandfather, Joseph Hulme, was born in Putney, England in 1843, third child and second son of his parents, William Clough/Cluff Hulme and Hephzibah nee Land.

Excerpt from Obituary in "Wangaratta Chronicle" 3-10-1920

After an illness of two years duration, Mr Joseph Hulme died on Sunday, at his home at Milawa, the cause being heart failure.  Throughout he was attentively cared for by his daughters.

The late Mr Hulme was a well known figure in the Milawa and Oxley districts, and had lived there for just on sixty years, carrying on mixed farming and dairying, his herd of Jersey cattle being one of the finest thereabouts.

Mr Hulme, who was 79 years of age was a native of Putney, England and in the year 1860 he came to Australia with his Uncle Mr. Arthur Land, who is still living at Carboor.  The voyage out in the sailing ship "Kent" occupying over 100 days.

His father was the late William Cluff Hulme of Milawa.  Mr Hulme did not take part in public affairs but gave his undivided attention to the management of his farm, which he worked successfully.

When a lad of sixteen years,  he competed in a boys class at one of the first ploughing matches held at Oxley, having for an opponent, Mr W. R. Doig, now of Wangaratta, and in later years he won several prizes as a ploughman,

He was fond of sport and was a member of the first cricket club formed at Milawa, his ability with bat and ball winning him the distinction of being one of the best cricketers of his day, in the Milawa district.

He was of a retiring nature, but his genial disposition, strict integrity in all things, and fine neighbourly qualities, won him the respect of the people.

He was married at Beechworth and his wife .......... (next part missing, will add at a later date when found.)

He is survived by six daughters and two sons, namely
Mrs. L Davenport New Zealand,
Mrs G Wright, Wagga,
Mrs W Morgan, Moyhu,
Misses Clara, Elsie and Pleasance Hulme,
and Messrs Herbert and Sydney Hulme, Milawa.

He leaves twenty two grandchildren and three great grandchildren.

Brothers and sisters of the deceased are -
Mr Arthur Hulme, Milawa.
Messrs Albert and Jeremiah Hulme, Bowman's
and Mrs Jessie McGregor, Milawa.

The funeral took place on Monday, the cortege of over fifty vehicles testified to the respect in which deceased was held.

The coffin bearers were -
H. J. Hulme,  S. J. Hulme,  E. E. Simmonds,  W. J. Morgan.

Pall bearers -
Messrs Hazell,  I Heath, D. Ferguson, W, Humphrey, J. Bartsh, J. F. Brown.
Burial read by the Rev. Mace.


Hulme family History - St Pancras and Fulham, United Kingdom.










Sunday, 19 August 2012

Sunday's Obituary - Allan Percy Fleming

On the Obituaries Australia website I've just found an obituary for my Mum's cousin, Allan Percy Fleming.
Allan was born in 1912, the son of Albert Henry Percival "Alf" Fleming and Margery Waters.
Albert Henry Percival "Alf" Fleming was the eldest brother of my grandfather, Archie Fleming.


Fleming, Allan Percy (1912–2001)

As a soldier, journalist and senior Commonwealth public servant, Allan Fleming had a long, distinguished and exceptionally varied career, marked at times by high romanticism.
Allan Fleming, 1971In all that he undertook, he showed initiative, creativity, ability to adapt readily to new situations and relate well to people. All these attributes were evident when, during the North African campaign in 1941 when he came face-to-face with the famed commander of the German Afrika Korps, General (later Field-Marshal) Rommel. This now almost legendary incident occurred during a tank battle in the midst of ‘Operation Crusader’, south of Tobruk. Fleming, then a captain, was serving with 60 or so other Australians with British forces as part of a unit co-ordinating air support for ground troops.
He and another Australian, Major Arch Molloy, were in a British command vehicle being pursued by the Germans as they raced to link up with some British tanks they could see in the distance. When they reached the tanks, they found they were in the hands of the Germans and they were captured. Taken to a German advanced post, a German motorcyclist turned up with a bottle of Fourex beer, which he had picked up from an overrun British canteen. After trying it himself, the German handed it to Fleming and Molloy, who polished it off. Suddenly, they heard the Germans around them shouting, ‘Rommel, Rommel’ and there he was arriving in his famous pose – peaked cap, silk scarf, goggles with hands on the windscreen of a Volkswagen command car. As General von Ravenstein, one of his divisional commanders, was showing him the British command vehicle, the Australians were summoned to join them.  Rommel was fascinated to learn that they were Australians and asked what others were in the battle, to which Fleming and Molloy gave a non-committal reply.
Rommel went on to say, ‘You Australians are not bad fighters’ and they replied, ‘Well, we think so’. When Rommel then told them, they would not win the war, Fleming, getting a bit cheeky, said, ‘We don’t think so, because we have a secret weapon’ and pointed to the bottle of Fourex. Giving them a quizzical look, Rommel moved on. After being dragged around with the Germans as the battle swirled around the countryside, Fleming and Molloy managed to liberate a truck and escape to their own lines. There they were summoned by the British commander, General (later Field-Marshal) Claude Auchinleck, who thought they might have information about Rommel’s strength and intentions.
Entering the Public Service through the Defence Department, Fleming played a  significant part in the formative stages of Australia’s post-war military intelligence agencies as director of the Joint Intelligence Bureau, Controller of Joint Intelligence, later becoming an assistant secretary, then Controller Joint Service Organisations. Later he held senior positions in the Department of Trade and Industry before becoming Parliamentary Librarian and later National Librarian. At the behest of Sir Peter Lawler, as Secretary of the Department of Administrative Services, he came out of retirement in 1976 to spend two years as Commonwealth Government VIP Security Co-ordinator. In this, his last Public Service appointment, he was responsible for the general planning of security arrangements for all public figures.
However, Fleming, who has died in Melbourne from lung cancer aged 88, is probably best remembered in his role as National Librarian, to which he was appointed in 1970, having previously been Commonwealth Parliamentary Librarian for two years. Coming to the National Library in succession to the long-serving and legendary Sir Harold White, the task confronting Fleming was not an easy one, particularly as he was a non-librarian. This aroused a certain amount of ire among professional librarians, as it had when he went to the Parliamentary Library. But in his disarming way, he soon overcame this. Interestingly, it was Sir Harold White who had recruited him for the parliamentary job.
It was a time of change in library practice as computer technology began to be applied to the delivery of library services. Against this background, what he set about doing was to produce a national information policy oriented towards user needs. From the basis that, ‘you can’t get anywhere without people in libraries’, he built up staff with the expertise needed to integrate all areas of information and make it available to users as speedily as possible. And in seeking to extend the library’s scope beyond the humanities and social sciences, he sought to make information on science and technology available to library users. To do this, he was not averse to seeking co-operation of outside bodies and working with them.
With Fleming at the helm, the library entered a major development phase with his appointment of Alec Bolton, from Angus and Robertson, to establishing a publishing section; the acquisition of a major music collection and, in the film area, copies of the Cinesound-Movietone collection, now a prized item in Screensound Australia’s holdings.
The emphasis he put on the dissemination of information at the National Library, was a natural progression from what he had put in train after becoming Parliamentary Librarian in 1968. There he had consolidated and expanded the research service, established on a small scale a few years previously. The service was greatly enhanced by the introduction of a subject ‘groups’ concept, which led to substantial increases in output as measured against the number of requests. As well as generally building up staff, another of his projects was to encourage and foster the development of the current information section.
Born in Melbourne on March 5, 1912, after his parents moved there from Whitfield, north-eastern Victoria, Fleming was educated at Lee Street State school, North Carlton, and on scholarships to Scotch College and Melbourne University, from where he graduated with an arts degree and, among other things, edited Farrago, the student newspaper. At Scotch, among his schoolmates were Geoffrey Hutton, Alan Moorhead and Ross Campbell, later well-known journalists, and Ted Laurie who became a communist lawyer. While at university, he helped support himself by taking up an offer to be a teacher-in-training and housemaster at Scotch. And it was there that he met is future wife, Margaret, a nursing sister, whom he married in Jaffa in 1940, after she managed to secure passage on the last ship allowed to carry civilian passengers to the Middle East and actually arrived before his ship docked.
He abandoned the prospect of a teaching career when offered a place as a cadet reporter on the now defunct Melbourne Argus. Approached by the Herald papers in Melbourne, Fleming went to the Courier-Mail, Brisbane, where he became assistant editor of the Sunday-Mail, and wrote leaders (editorials) and a daily column for the Courier-Mail. Enlisting in the AIF as a private in 1939, he saw service in North Africa, Greece, New Guinea and the South-West Pacific. He rose to Lieutenant-Colonel, having been commissioned before leaving for the Middle East, and, after various intelligence appointments, finished the war as air liaison officer Advanced Land Headquarters. He was awarded the OBE and twice mentioned in despatches.
Another short stint in journalism at the Sun, Melbourne, followed; he was senior magazine editor and a columnist. His career in the Public Service began when, at the instigation of Charles Spry, then director of Military Intelligence, he applied and was appointed director of the Joint Intelligence Bureau. He went on to become Controller of Joint Intelligence before serving as assistant secretary 1949-53 and Controller of the Joint Services Organisation (1953-58). Then he switched to Trade and Industry with three years in Paris as Trade Commissioner, four years in Canberra as a first assistant secretary in the international and policy divisions and a further year in London as special commercial adviser. While at Trade, he led delegations to GATT and UNCTAD and was president of the UNCTAD board in 1965. In 1968 he became Parliamentary Librarian and two years later National Librarian. His last Public Service appointment was in 1976 when he was appointed Commonwealth Government VIP Security Co-ordinator. There, until 1978, he was responsible for the general planning of security arrangements for all public figures and for ensuring that all the agencies involved worked together and knew what each other was doing.
Though he had no specific training for most of the jobs he ended up in, he never left any of them without having made a significant contribution. This was recognised with the award of a CBE in 1979. After his retirement, he lived quietly in Melbourne with his wife, Margaret, who predeceased him in 1999. His daughter Alannah and his grandchildren survive him.
Allan Percy Fleming, Born March 5, 1912; died January 18, 2001.

Original publication

  • Canberra Times, 26 January 2001, p 23
  • Sydney Morning Herald, 23 January 2001, p 27

Additional Resources

Related Entries in NCB Sites

Citation details

Farquharson, John, 'Fleming, Allan Percy (1912–2001)', Obituaries Australia, National Centre of Biography, Australian National University, http://oa.anu.edu.au/obituary/fleming-allan-percy-387/text388, accessed 19 August 2012.


Sunday, 29 April 2012

Sunday's Obituary - My own dearly loved Mum.




My Sunday's Obituary post today is for my own dearly loved Mum
who passed away last Monday the 23 of April.  She was laid
to rest with a beautiful graveside service on Friday the 27th of April at Pine Lodge Lawn
Cemetery, Northern Victoria.




Mum's eulogy

The third of Daisy and Archie Fleming’s four children, Amelia Joan was born at Wangaratta on 5th September, 1937; her siblings are Ken, Margaret and Elaine.

Joan was brought up in North East Victoria. The family moved around a lot for work.
Joan left Rochester High School at about fourteen years of age, and worked in grocery stores in Wangaratta and then Shepparton.

Through friends, Joan met Kerry Forsyth in 1957 and they married at the Church of England in Mooroopna in 1958.  Joan looked after the home and their two children - Kerryn who was born in 1958 and Ross who arrived two years later in 1960.
Once the children were attending school, Joan worked as a kindergarten assistant at St David’s Kindergarten in Shepparton.
Later on, Joan and Kerry were divorced.


While attending a country music club meeting in 1975, Joan met Bud Oster and they married on 1st December, 1981 at Mount Major.  They lived in Shepparton and Joan continued to work for the Yakka clothing company for a while, then later in food services at the Mooroopna Hospital, until it closed.


Bud and Joan bought the General Store at Dookie in 1990, where they worked for five years. After they sold the business they continued to live at Dookie for another five years. Bud went back to his previous occupation in automotive spare parts sales … and Joan retired.
When Bud had his annual holidays they used to enjoy exploring Australia.

Until recently Joan loved working as a volunteer at the Revamp Op Shop in Fryers Street, Shepparton.

In her younger years Joan played tennis, and later she took up bowls, playing first for East Shepparton and then Dookie.
She loved gardening, roses being one of her favourite flowers, and she also grew vegetables.  She enjoyed crosswords, word puzzles, scrabble, card games such as euchre, five hundred and canasta … and Joan was also an avid reader of crime stories.
She enjoyed most genres of music, but particularly loved country music, and some of her favourite singers were Rod Stewart, Roy Orbison, Jimmy Barnes, Neil Diamond … and the list goes on.

In the last five years or so, Joan has contended with ill-health, and so she and Bud moved to Rodney Park eight months ago.  Joan suffered pneumonia and some heart failure last Christmas and she was admitted to GV Base Hospital for a time, before returning home.
On Wednesday 18th April Joan was re-admitted to GV Base after a cardiac arrest.  Joan died there on Monday 23rd April 2012 with family by her side.

A very caring, sometimes stubborn, always generous person, with a good sense of humour, Joan was very protective of her family and was a loving wife, mother, grand-mother and great-grand-mother.

Horsing around with her much loved son.
Joan leaves Bud, her husband of thirty-one years; she leaves her two children - Kerryn and Ross; she leaves her six grand-children - Andrew, Lisa, Samantha, Kathryn, Prudence, and Simeon;

She leaves two great-grand-children - Khaylen and Nevaeh and would have dearly loved to have met her treasured, soon-to-be-born, great grandchild.

Joan is survived by her three siblings - Ken, Margaret and Elaine.


My beloved mum is now reunited with her own beloved mum.  We love you Mum and Nanna.

Sunday, 8 April 2012

Sunday's Obituary - Margaret Fleming nee Hart

My great grandma Fleming was born Margaret Hart on the 23rd of July 1869 at Eglinton, Clunes, Victoria.  She was the eldest daughter of Peter Hart and Agnes nee Mason.

Margaret Fleming nee Hart (seated) with two of her daughters, Maggie and Nellie.
Margaret married Donald Fleming on the 13th of November 1889 and they had eleven children who all lived  well into middle and old age.  Margaret died on the 24th of August 1960 at King Valley.  She was 91 years of age.

OBITUARY FOR MRS MARGARET FLEMING

from Wangaratta Chronicle-Despatch Wed 31st Aug. 1960.

The funeral of one of the first pioneers of the King Valley district was held on Friday 26th August 1960.
Mrs Margaret Fleming, aged 91 years, who with her late husband, was the first to take up a selection of the Hyem estate more than 63 years ago.
The Rev. C.L. Oliver, warden of St Columbs Hall officiated at home and at the graveside.
Coffin Bearers:-
D and H Fleming (sons) H. Rutledge and D McLaren (sons in law)
Pall Bearers:-
R. Vines (son in law); S. Fleming (nephew); J. Ball (son in law); A Crockett; K. Vines; F Fleming and H Black (grandsons) and J Ball ( brother in law) .
Mrs Fleming is survived by the following members of her family:-
May (Mrs Crockett of Albury); Donald (Edi); Essie (Mrs. Black of Bacchus Marsh); Millie (Mrs Rutledge of Echuca); Margaret (Mrs Ball of Myrrhee); Nellie (Mrs Vines of Myrtleford); Myrtle ( Mrs McLaren of Shepparton); Archie (Shepparton) and
Harold (King Valley).  One son Albert predeceased his mother.
George Handley in charge of funeral arrangements.

Sunday, 11 March 2012

Sunday's Obituary - Donald Fleming


My great grandfather, Donald Fleming.  (1860 - 1921)

Every time I look at his photo I see his son (my grandfather) Archie's smiling eyes.

Wangaratta Chronicle, Sat Dec 24th, 1921.

Mr. Donald Fleming died suddenly on Thursday afternoon, Thursday 22nd December, 1921, at his home in King Valley.  He appeared to be in his normal state of health that day but about 4 o'clock he collapsed and died.  The occurrence was reported to Constable Harry, of  Whitfield, and an inquiry was held by J.J. Stephens, J.P. of Whitfield when a verdict of death from natural causes was recorded.

The late Mr. Fleming was a son of Mr. and Mrs W.F. Fleming of Edi and 62 years of age.  Born at Castlemaine and after some years residence in the Goulburn Valley district he settled at King Valley about 30 years ago, and there with Mrs. Fleming and members of his family carried on mixed farming, dairying receiving most of his attention.

Mr. Fleming took an interest in many district movements and was an active worker towards their success.  He was a member of the King Valley school committee and a trustee of the cemetery.  He was well respected in the district and the news of his sudden death was heard of with deep regret by the residents.

Mr. Fleming, who was married at Echuca to Margaret Hart is survived by his wife and grown up family of 10 children.  Members of the family are:-  Messrs Alf (Melbourne), who was the 14th man to enlist in the A.I.F. rising to the rank of lieutenant.; Donald; Archie; and Harold Fleming (King Valley)

Mesdames H. Crockett; Black; and Routledge (of Albury); Mrs A Barry (Myrtleford) and Misses Nellie and Myrtle Fleming (King Valley)

Brothers and sisters of the deceased are:-  J.K. Fleming (Wangaratta); W.J. Fleming (Northcote) and M. Fleming (Wyalong NSW)

Mesdames Tuckett (Kensington); Worrall (Brunswick); and Thompson (Nth Melbourne)

Interred at King Valley ? (Edi) cemetery yesterday.  G.V. Steele in charge of arrangements.

Monday, 5 March 2012

Sunday's Obituary - Ann Jane Fleming nee Knight


My great great grandmother, Ann Jane Knight, was born about 1832 in Gloucestershire, England.  Her father was John Knight.
I have no further details about her life there or her parents or any siblings apart from what is written in the following obituaries.
I'm at a bit of a loss as to how to find more information such as who her mother was, where in Gloucestershire they came from etc.

UPDATES in September and November 2016


Ann gave birth to thirteen children, four of whom didn't survive childhood. The photo below is Ann and William Fleming with five of their children.



Wangaratta Despatch, Saturday, November 13, 1920 - Death of an Old Colonist - Mrs Ann Jane Fleming

A very old colonist in the person of Mrs Ann Jane Fleming, relict of the late William Finlay Fleming, died at her daughter's residence, (Mrs M Worrall, Brunswick) on Wednesday, November 10th, 1920, and the remains were taken to Whitfield for interment on Thursday.  Deceased who was aged 88 years, sustained an injury to her leg in February and was confined to her bed since, during her illness she was nursed by her daughters whose kindness to her was a comfort and consolation in the autumn of her life.  Born Gloucestershire, England, the late Mrs Fleming came to Australia in 1847 with her parents, and two sisters, since deceased.  After her marriage to Mr. Fleming 68 years ago, she went to the Goulburn Valley where they carried on farming for many years.  About 21 years ago they went to reside at Edi and her Husband died 9 years ago.  She is survived by 3 sons: Donald (King Valley), Moses (Wyalong) and J.K. Fleming (Wangaratta) also 5 daughters: Mrs. J. Thompson (Wangaratta) A. Tuckett (Kensington) M. Worrall (Brunswick), S. Laurence (Whitfield), W. Jones (Northcote) numerous grandchildren.  The funeral arrangements in Melbourne were carried out by J Allison and in Wangaratta by Irvings Pty Ltd.  Rev J.T. Piercey conducted the burial service.

FLEMING [KNIGHT] Ann Jane (1832 - 10/11/1920)   [EDI]
Wangaratta Chronicle, Saturday November 13, 1920
DEATH OF EDI RESIDENT.- Mrs Ann Jane FLEMING, widow of the late Mr Wm Finlay FLEMING, of Edi, died on Wednesday morning at the home of her daughter at Brunswick with whom she had been living since February last. Some time ago Mrs FLEMING fell and injured the bone of one leg, and since then she had been unable to leave her bed. Death was due to affects arising from this injury and also to heart weakness. The late Mrs FLEMING was a native of Glochestershire, England, and was 88 years of age. With her parents she came to Australia in 1847, and after their marriage in Melbourne Mr and Mrs FLEMING went to the Goulburn Valley where they engaged in farming, and 12 years ago sold out to come to Edi to live. There Mr FLEMING died nine years ago. Mrs FLEMING was respected by all who knew her. In time of sickness or trouble amongst her neighbors she was always anxious to help them, and in this way she rendered very helpful services to many sufferers. She is survived by eight of her family of 13, namely, Mrs J THOMPSON, Wangaratta; Mrs A TUCKETT, Kensington; Mrs M WORRALL, Brunswick; Mrs S LAURENCE, Whitfield; Mr Wm Jones FLEMING, Northcote; Mr Donald FLEMING, King Valley; Mr Moses FLEMING, Wyalong, NSW; and Mr John K FLEMING, Wangaaratta. There are 77 grand-children, 45 great grand children, and one great-great grandchild. The remains were brought from Melbourne on Wednesday night, and the cortege left the residence of Mr J K FLEMING on Thursday morning for the Whitfield cemetery. The burial service was read by Mr PIERCEY. The funeral arrangements were conducted by Mr J ALSTON (Melbourne) and Mr G V STEELE, Wangaratta.

Monday, 13 February 2012

Sunday's Obituary - William Finlay Fleming

My great great grandfather, William Finlay Fleming, was a confusing gent to research.  All the family members who have done so agree that he must have been a bit of a story teller.
His age at death was given as 102 years but after going through all the records found on him to date, everyone agrees he was not that old.  (even though he looks it)


General consensus is that he was born in 1831 not 1810 as he infers.  Shipping record, census records etc all tie in with 1831.  

Did he embellish the facts or did he simply not know how old he was? 

The Church record (New South Wales Free Presbyterian) of his marriage to Ann Jane Knight in 1852 gives no ages.

There were 2 long obituaries for him in the newspapers for the areas in which he'd lived the longest.  Edi/Whitfield/Wangaratta area and Kotupna/Nathalia area.  Even these differ in some facts.


Wangaratta Chronicle 2nd December, 1911

The death occurred at Edi (26 miles from Wangaratta) on Tuesday night of Mr. William Finlay Fleming, at the great age of 101 years.  Had he lived until the 8th of January next he would have been 102 years.  Mr. Fleming was possessed of a remarkably fine constitution and to back it up he was endowed with a fine stamina.  While the good health he enjoyed for 100 years was the means of always keeping him in the best of spirits,  until four months ago he did not know what it was to be ill, and during these last four months of his long existence he had the services of Doctor Bays and was well cared for by his wife and daughters and other descendants and friends.  He died peacefully and quietly, surrounded by members of his family.

Although he had set out on his second century, he retained up to the very last the full use of all his faculties - his eye sight, hearing and speech where not impaired in any way and he enjoyed conversing with friends.

Although he worked hard and to use his own term "roughed It" in the early days in this country, the hardships experienced in the 40's, 50's and 60's in this state, did not have any detrimental effect on his constitution.  He was one of the hardy old Scotsman.

The late Mr. Fleming was a native of Galloway, Scotland, and was born on the 8th January, 1810.

When he was 31 years of age the family decided to migrate to Australia, and the father and mother with members of the family came to Victoria by the "William Stewart", landing at Port Phillip in 1842.  Melbourne was then in its infancy.
Shortly after the landing, the subject of this obituary went to "Burnbank" Lexton, where he was employed for a time as a waiter in a hotel and afterwards employed as a shepherd by the late Hon. Finley Campbell in the Clunes district.  He also worked as a farm labourer for several years in the same district.  He was thrifty and careful, and after some years of saving, he got together sufficient money to purchase a wagon and team of bullocks, with which he commenced carrying on the roads between Melbourne and several gold fields, including Castlemain, Bendigo, Ballarat and Clunes.  He was not impressed with the life of a carrier and later made an application for, and was appointed Town Herdsman for Melbourne.  When he landed in Victoria, the boundary for a station was indicated by corner pegs driven into the ground, and when he took the duties of Herdsman of Melbourne, the ground on which Collingwood, Carlton and other neighbouring suburbs are now found, was
a big common.

Being somewhat of a roving disposition, he didn't  keep the position of herdsman for long, but resigned for the purpose of trying his luck at mining.  He started mining at the Bendigo and Clunes district.  Although he was not very successful he secured one fine nugget which turned the scale at 3lbs 2oz.  After 18 years on the gold fields, he entered upon farming pursuits at Creswick and combined butchering with his farm work.  Beef and mutton were not costly in those days and a
quarter of mutton could be bought for 6d, roasts for 1d and 2d per pound and other parts at similar prices.  Flour, sugar and tea were dear at this time.

In 1873, he left Creswick and settled at Kotupna in the Goulburn Valley, where he selected 185 acres of land.  Here he and his family remained for 27 years, when in 1910 they removed and settled in the Edi district, where the sons followed farming pursuits, and the father and mother lived quietly, enjoying the company of their sons, daughters, grandchildren and great grandchildren.

The late Mr. Fleming was married by the Reverend Miller, in the Presbyterian church; Melbourne on 15th March, 1852, his wife being a native of Gloucester (shire?), England.  She is now 78 years of age and is healthy and strong.

Mr. and Mrs. Fleming were in Wangaratta about six months ago, attending to business and on that occasion Mr. Fleming remarked that he was wonderfully well, the only thing that troubled him being his legs, which became weak at times.

When the American Fleet was in Melbourne, Mr Fleming visited that city and was presented to the Admiral with whom he conversed and joked about the guns and warships of the 30's.  Mr Fleming was accompanied by his wife and they visited various parts of Melbourne, which were a wilderness when they first lived there.

He lived under six different sovereigns viz: William, George 111 , George iv, Queen Victoria, Edward and George v.  He was an interesting personality and could relate with the blacks in the early days.  He remembered the gay doings and happenings of the Gold fields.

Mr Fleming was not an abstainer from spirituous liquors, but he never partook to excess.  He also enjoyed his pipe.  He was well known in several parts of the state and had a large circle of friends who held him in the highest esteem, not solely on account of his great age but because of his pleasant disposition and upright and manly actions during his 60 years as a Victorian Colonist.

By the death of Mr Fleming, the country has lost a nation builder, for his descendants, now living, total 98.  Out of a family of 13, four boys and four girls still survive.  They are Mr W. James Fleming, South Merong, Melbourne,  Mr Don Fleming, King Valley,  Mr Moses Fleming, Wyalong,  Mr J Knight Fleming, Edi, Mrs Thos Tuckett, Melbourne, Mrs Chas Worrall, Camperdown, and Mrs Sam Laurence, Whitfield.  There are 72 grandchildren and 18 great grandchildren.  Mrs Mary Ann Stokes of Sydney is a sister of deceased and she is now in her 85th year.

Sympathy is expressed for the sorrowing wife.  The funeral took place on Wednesday afternoon when the remains were interred at the Edi cemetery.  The cortege was a fairly lengthy one.  The burial service was read by Mr. Donaldson, Presbyterian Home Mission.  The funeral arrangements were in the hands of Mr. Thomas Lachlan.


Nathalia Herald September 9, 1911:

Old Mr. W.F. Fleming who formerly lived for several years in Kotupna, but now resides at Edi, sends word that he is ill, but is hopeful of getting better and lasting a few years longer.  When we remember that the old gentleman has passed the century, having been born in 1810, we hope his wish will be realised.  Mr. Fleming, in the long ago, was once Town Herdsman for Melbourne.

The North Eastern Despatch, Saturday, December 2 1911:

Death of Oldest resident of district, Mr. W.F. Fleming - Aged 101 years, 11 months.
The death occurred at Edi on Tuesday afternoon of a remarkable old man, Mr. William Finlay Fleming who, had he lived until January 12th next, would have reached his 102nd year.  The old man's great age was well attested, and he had marvellous vitality, retaining his faculties to a wonderful degree until four months ago, when gangrene developed in one of his legs, and his death then became a question to short time only.  His brain was very active almost to the last, his hearing perfect, and his sight but slightly impaired of late years.  He use to relate how second sight came to him some years ago, and after that his vision was so good that even a few months before his death he could distinguish the figure of a man half a mile away.  Twelve months ago when standing at the door of his house he could recognize a buggy passing along the road quite half a mile distant.  He attributed his long life to inherited vitality and took no special care of himself, eating and drinking anything, yet he could move about with comparative ease, and was able to come to Wangaratta by train last year.  He was a heavy smoker in his early years, but during an attack of illness, when he was about 80 - his first and only illness until four months ago - he gave up the habit, not because he believed it was doing him harm, but in order to show possession of will power.  " My earliest recollection was seeing my grandfather, who was a soldier, on his arrival home after the Battle of Waterloo in June 1815",  This is how the late Mr. Fleming answered a question put to him a year ago regarding his early memories and in that momentous year he was five and a half years old.  He had a mind full of reminiscences, but like many old people they were of personalities rather than of incidents, for he had lived a comparatively quiet life.  Lack of education was a great draw-back to him, for he was not born "in the purple" and in  his boy-hood days, schooling was for the well-to-do only.  But though he never learnt to write with any facility he acquired the knowledge to read in later years, and was possessed of much intelligence.  Blessed with a genial nature, he always took the best out of life, and even when past the century he was brisk in repartee and a capital conversationalist.  The late Mr. Fleming was born in Galloway, Scotland in January 1810, and was descendant from wonderful stock, his grandmother living to the age of 105, while his mother died in Victoria when in her 90th year.  
The second ship to bring emigrants from England to Australia, was the sailing vessel " William Stewart"  and on May 15th, 1842, there was landed at Port Melbourne amongst the passengers on that initial voyage a family party comprising father, mother, three sons and three daughters.  William Finlay Fleming, then a man of 37 years, was one of those sons, who having no fixed occupation in Galloway had joined his parents and other members of the family in their expedition to Australia, which was then but slightly known in the Old country, Melbourne was only in its infancy, and while some of the family secured employment there, the son William set off for the country in search of work on some of the stations,  His first job was at Burnbank, or Lexton, as the place is now called, and Mr. Anderson gave him work as barman in his hotel.  The house was the rendezvous of men from the stations, and others, rough characters many of them, and Mr. Fleming's first insight into Colonial life was not pleasing to one who had been reared amongst the staid population of the town of Galloway.  The duties of a barman were not of the mild character associated with the position of to-day, and there was much drinking and consequent riotousness.  Three months sufficed for Mr. Fleming, but he had signed an agreement to remain for 12 months, and it was only by pretending drunkenness at the suggestion of a station overseer that he managed to get a discharge, for he was in need of him on the station of Mr. Allan Cameron, on the Wimmera, and Mr. Fleming remained there for three months during the shearing.   He had saved 90 pounds by this time, and decided on a trip to Melbourne to rejoin his relatives.  In company with two other station hands he started off and stayed for a night at a hotel at Fiery Creek, but in the morning he found that his companions had robbed him and hurried away, he followed them as fast as he could but they reached Geelong, 60 miles away, in advance and he never saw them again, though he had the satisfaction of learning that both were imprisoned, one of them for a big robbery.  The Lodden tribe of black fellows were wild in those early times and Mr. Fleming was an eye-witness of one startling incident during his walk to Geelong, a black fellow being engaged in roasting a lubra on a pile of burning wood.  This was a portion of Magill/s station and the process was being calmly watched by a couple of of dozen men of the tribe, the woman having been adjudged guilty of some serious offence.  His money gone, Mr. Fleming reached Melbourne from Geelong with difficulty, but he at once got to work again, being engaged with a gang of navvies cutting down the hill in Bourke Street, as the streets were only then being formed.  A few months later he secured the position of Town Herdsman, his duties being the care of cows and horses that were turned into the bush to graze.  They de pastured round about Footscray and Flemington mainly but those localities were not thus known in those days, and were covered with ti tree scrub.  The racecourse was on Batmans' Hill near where Spencer Street railway station is now situated.  Mr. Fleming did well as herdsman, and with his savings decided to start butchering but two years later he was compelled to abandon the business and went back to the Clunes district, where he got an engagement as shepherd on the station of Mr. Donald Cameron, a brother of a former employer.  Here he spent several years, and became a valued man, dealing with stock or droving them from the station to a depot at Footscray./  It was at Clunes in the year 1851 that Mr. Fleming's marriage and the discovery of gold synchronized, and in 1853, a team of bullocks was bought for the purpose of carrying goods from Melbourne to the gold fields at Castlemaine and other places,  The young wife accompanied her husband on several trips.  Later on they settled at Creswick, where Mr. Fleming went prospecting on his own account, but with poor results, though he secured a 36 ounce nugget on one occasion.  Engine diving at the Albion mine and butchering were other occupations he followed for several years, and altogether he spent 18 years at Creswick.  In 1870 Mr. Fleming received another call to the lonely life of the station, and he and his wife and three children went to Campbell's Willoora station, near Hay, where the husband was engaged as boundary rider.  Mrs. Fleming and the children returned to Castlemaine, but after a few months Mr. Fleming joined them, and eventually they removed to Kotupna, where Mr. Fleming selected a block of 173 acres of land.,  Here he and his wife reared a family of 13 children, but their thrift and industry were poorly rewarded, as floods caused them serious losses and robbed them of the independence which was surely the due of this fine old pair of pioneers,  The last remaining results of their many years of labour were sadly reduced by some dispensation, which was beyond their control, and eleven years ago they again changed their residence.  One of their sons, Mr. John Fleming had previously settled at Edi, and the old couple decided to make their last home near him, hence at Edi, came the end of this remarkable old man.  Of the Galloway family, who came to Melbourne in 1842, a daughter, Mrs Stokes, of Sydney, is now the only survivor, and she is 87 years of age,  She visited her distinguished old relative a few months ago.  Deceased's wife, who has cared for her husband with great affection and whose family testify to her excellent motherly instincts, survives at the age of 84 and is still well preserved.  The surviving members of the old couple's family are - Messrs William James (Morang), Donald ( Whitfield), Moses (Wyalong), John K (Edi), Mrs R. Thompson and Mrs T. Tuckett (Melbourne), Mrs, C, Worrall (Camperdown), Mrs, S.J. Lawrence (Whitfield).  Deceased had more than 70 grandchildren, and 16 great grand children,  The remains of deceased were interred in the Edi cemetery on Wednesday afternoon.  Mr. T Laidler conducted the funeral, and Mr. Donaldson, of the Presbyterian Church officiated at the grave.