Friday, 31 August 2012

Q is for ........... Query


Queen, Quinn or other?


 This is my contribution to Alona from Gould Genealogy's                     


According to her marriage certificate my husband's great grandmother was Eliza Queen.

Below is a snip of the first section of marriage certificate.  To me it looks like Tween and it is so transcribed for one birth of one child in the Victorian BMD indexes.  The others are transcribed Queen.

Does it look like Queen?


Eliza was born in County Down, Ireland about 1832
She said her father was James Queen - a surveyor and her mother was Sarah Blakeley
















There was a surveyor named James Quinn in Belfast.
from  http://eppi.dippam.ac.uk/

 My family history through the alphabet list


Not sure where to go from here.

Wednesday, 29 August 2012

Wedding Wednesday - Clarice Morgan

Clarice May Morgan married David Jones in 1930.  Her bridesmaid was her sister, (my nana), Daisy Marion Morgan and the best man was the groom's brother, Ernie Jones.

Clarice, known to us as "Aunty Tod" because all the girls in the family had boys nicknames, was born at Moyhu on the 23rd of September 1905. She was the eldest daughter of William Thomas Morgan and Ada May nee Hulme.
Aunty Tod died at Wangaratta on the 16th of January 1998, aged 92 years.  Her husband David died at the very young age of 35 in 1942.  They had 2 children, Carol and Neil both now deceased.


Tuesday, 28 August 2012

Travel Tuesday - Fleming Family from Scotland to Australia

FLEMING

Andrew and Ellen/Helen Fleming (nee Finlay) and their six children traveled to Australia from Scotland in 1848 on the barque "William Stewart"  Their son William Finlay Fleming was my great great grandfather.  He and his wife, Ann (Jane) Knight  moved to Whitfield in 1901 but before that spent many years at  Kotupna (near Nathalia).


"Pioneers of Nathalia and District"

FLEMING
The Chairman of the immigration board at Port Phillip, was not overly impressed with the appearance of the immigrants who had arrived after a voyage of 111 days, on board the "William Stewart", on 15th May 1848.
"Although three young children have died, the remainder of the passengers have remained remarkably healthy", he wrote "but the description and general appearance of the passengers appears to be amongst the most miserable that have here-to-fore reached the district".
Not a wonderful description of the Fleming Family who were amongst the 233 passengers on board.  Andrew and Ellen Fleming, both aged 38, and their six children, William Finlay 17,  Annie 12,  Ellen 11,  Mary Ann 7, James 6 and Andrew 4, had left their home in Galloway shire, Wigton, Scotland, to make a new life in Australia.
William had travelled in the "unmarried males" quarters and was hired immediately upon arrival while still on board, by David Anderson, to work as a waiter at his hotel at Burbank (Lexton).
The remainder of the family were sent to the Government Depot before they could find employment.
Ellen was the daughter of William and Marion Finley, nee Bride, and this name Finley/Finlay, is carried through later generations as a forename.
It is not known what became of Andrew Snr, but his wife Ellen died at Nhill in 1885, where she had been living with her granddaughter Mary Connary. (sic)  ...(Convary)
William spent some years in the Clunes area working as a shepherd, farm hand and miner.  He later purchased a team and worked for some years in the carrying business, before moving to Melbourne where he was employed as the the town Herdsman.
Before coming to Kotupna where he selected Allotment 22, he was a butcher at Creswick.
By 1897 he and his family were living in a four roomed weatherboard house, lined inside with deal and measuring 25 x 21 feet.  His land was well fenced, some four acres were sown with wheat, 22 acres of trees had been rung with the dead wood cleared, and he had established an orchard containing 60 fruit trees.
William had married Ann Jane Knight in 1852 with their family of thirteen children, Anne Jane, William James, Ellen,  Sarah, Donald, Alice, Finlay, Moses, Ruth, Matilda, Christina, John Knight and Selina, all being born before the family moved to Kotupna.  Three of these sons, William James, Finlay and Moses also farmed at Kotupna before most of the family moved to the Wangaratta area in the early 1900's.
William Finley died in 1911 at Whitfield, with his wife living another nine years before she passed away at Wangaratta in 1920.
A great grand daughter of William Finley Fleming, Mrs Joe Waite, still lives at Nathalia and her great grandchildren make the 7th generation of this family to live in the Nathalia Shire.



Myrrhee?


 
Another photo from my grandmother, Daisy Morgan's, photo album.
There is a list of names but nothing to say what the gathering was for.
I would think it is possibly a school gathering of some sort as a teacher is mentioned.
I don't know if these names are in proper order.

Names are:
Reg LEWIS, Stanley PRATT, George MELVILLE, Ted JONES, Ronnie TULLY, Alan JOHNSTON, Bert MULLINS, Alan STEWART, Allan JONES, Victor SCHULTZ, Allan SHEEHAN, Eileen TULLY, May JONES, Blanche LEWIS, Elsie MULLINS, Gladys LEWIS, Clarice MORGAN, Alice FORGE, Avis WHITTY, Mary NOLAN, Eileen CATON, Ada MULLINS, Mary WHITTY, Muriel SAMPSON, Lily SAMPSON, Rosie TULLY, Dolly TULLY, Iris BYRNE, Nell JONES, Mavis MORGAN, Clare WHITTY, Jack WHITTY, Grace LEWIS, Don SHEEHAN, Grace JOHNSTON, Daisy MORGAN, Florrie DOOGE.
sitting:  Max WHITTY, Matt NOLAN, Percy JOHNSTON, Terry JOHNSTON, Ken MELVILLE, Dan BERRY, Frank BERRY, Kathleen TULLY, teachers twins, Dulcie SIMMONDS.

If anyone knows or has suggestions as to what this photo may be about please contact me.

© AncestorChasing 2012

Trove Tuesday - Mary Agnes Morgan


Amy Houston from Branches, Leaves & Pollen suggested the great idea of a Trove Tuesday theme. 

Earlier this year I made a major, if rather confronting discovery in Trove.
  
We had always suspected that my great grandparents, Mary Agnes nee Morgan and John Adams were separated but it had never been spoken about.  
Earlier research of the Victorian electoral rolls has shown they weren't living at the same residence for many years.

Mary and John were found to be living in the Essendon - Kensington area of Melbourne in the early years of their marriage but just a few years after the birth of their last child in 1906, John was no longer around.  The last electoral roll I found them listed at the same residence was in 1909.  

Then the Essendon Gazette and Keilor, Bulla and Broadmeadows Reporter (Moonee Ponds, Vic. : 1914 - 1918) became available in Trove. Wow, that set the ball rolling.  
To date I have found 16 articles spanning the years 1913 to 1918.

My grandmother was their second last child, born in 1905.  She and her younger brother were the children for whom their mother was seeking maintenance.  It is any wonder my grandmother never spoke much about her parents:

LAW COURTS. (1913, October 16). The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA : 1889 - 1931), p. 15. Retrieved August 28, 2012, from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article5806094

Another Adelaide newspaper had much the same article but with slight differences.

POLICE. (1913, October 16). The Register (Adelaide, SA : 1901 - 1929), p. 5. Retrieved August 28, 2012, from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article59107621
"LAW COURTS." The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA : 1889 - 1931) 20 Oct 1913: 5. Web. 28 Aug 2012 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5806604.
"FLEMINGTON POLICE COURT." The Essendon Gazette and Keilor, Bulla and Broadmeadows Reporter (Moonee Ponds, Vic. : 1914 - 1918) 15 Apr 1915: 6 Edition: Morning.. Web. 28 Aug 2012 <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article74588438>.
"Flemington Police Court." The Essendon Gazette and Keilor, Bulla and Broadmeadows Reporter (Moonee Ponds, Vic. : 1914 - 1918) 29 Apr 1915: 2 Edition: Morning.. Web. 28 Aug 2012 <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article74588587>.
"FLEMINGTON POLICE COURT." The Essendon Gazette and Keilor, Bulla and Broadmeadows Reporter (Moonee Ponds, Vic. : 1914 - 1918) 11 Nov 1915: 6 Edition: Morning.. Web. 28 Aug 2012 <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article74590791>.
"Tuesday, Noveber 28." The Essendon Gazette and Keilor, Bulla and Broadmeadows Reporter (Moonee Ponds, Vic. : 1914 - 1918) 30 Nov 1916: 3. Web. 28 Aug 2012 <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article74600954>.
"FLEMINGTON POLICE COURT." The Essendon Gazette and Keilor, Bulla and Broadmeadows Reporter (Moonee Ponds, Vic. : 1914 - 1918) 31 May 1917: 3 Edition: Morning. Web. 28 Aug 2012 <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article74602661>.
"Arrears of Maintenance." The Essendon Gazette and Keilor, Bulla and Broadmeadows Reporter (Moonee Ponds, Vic. : 1914 - 1918) 22 Nov 1917: 2 Edition: Morning. Web. 28 Aug 2012 <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article74604381>.
"FLEMINGTON-POLICE COURT." The Essendon Gazette and Keilor, Bulla and Broadmeadows Reporter (Moonee Ponds, Vic. : 1914 - 1918) 20 Dec 1917: 2 Edition: Morning.. Web. 28 Aug 2012 <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article74604660>.
"FLEMINGTON POLICE COURT." The Essendon Gazette and Keilor, Bulla and Broadmeadows Reporter (Moonee Ponds, Vic. : 1914 - 1918) 17 Jan 1918: 2 Edition: Morning. Web. 28 Aug 2012 <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article74604859>.
"Tuesday, March 26." The Essendon Gazette and Keilor, Bulla and Broadmeadows Reporter (Moonee Ponds, Vic. : 1914 - 1918) 28 Mar 1918: 2 Edition: Morning. Web. 28 Aug 2012 <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article74605514>.
"Tuesday, April 23." The Essendon Gazette and Keilor, Bulla and Broadmeadows Reporter (Moonee Ponds, Vic. : 1914 - 1918) 25 Apr 1918: 3 Edition: Morning. Web. 28 Aug 2012 <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article74605757>.
"Arrears of Maintenance." The Essendon Gazette and Keilor, Bulla and Broadmeadows Reporter (Moonee Ponds, Vic. : 1914 - 1918) 23 May 1918: 6 Edition: Morning. Web. 28 Aug 2012 <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article74606022>.
"FLEMINGTON POLICE COURT." The Essendon Gazette and Keilor, Bulla and Broadmeadows Reporter (Moonee Ponds, Vic. : 1914 - 1918) 11 Jul 1918: 2 Edition: Morning. Web. 28 Aug 2012 <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article74606540>.
"Tuesday, September 10." The Essendon Gazette and Keilor, Bulla and Broadmeadows Reporter (Moonee Ponds, Vic. : 1914 - 1918) 12 Sep 1918: 3 Edition: Morning. Web. 28 Aug 2012 <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article74607127>.
I haven't yet found if my great grandfather ever served any jail time or if there was further news coverage at later dates.

Thank you Trove for such a wonderful resource.

Monday, 27 August 2012

Bald Hill - Moyhu or Myrrhee?

These photos are in my grandmother's album and I would think had been taken around the late 1920s.



Some people nana remembered names for, others may have been surveyors.

The gentleman sitting at far left is my great grandfather William Thomas Morgan. (1872-1950)
There is also my grandmother, Daisy Morgan and her sister Clarice.
A Gladys Morgan, my nan's cousin.
Gladys is the daughter of Edward Morgan and Maria nee Patterson.

Other names are Wally Savage, Les Forge, Ollie Patterson, Norm Napier and Bob Forge.

I think the photo below may have been taken on the same day.  Nana has written on the back
"We us and company taken on top of Bald Hill".
some extra names on this photo are Bill Patterson, Mavis Morgan and surveyors.
I wonder what they were surveying.
© AncestorChasing 2012

Thursday, 23 August 2012

P is for ....... Occupations continued


PUBLICAN  

Is my contribution to Alona from Goulds
"Family History through the alphabet"  theme
















                                                   There was a PUB in my family

My great great grandparents, John and Alice Morgan started the original Cross Keys Hotel in North Essendon, Victoria in 1871.  I wondered why John named it the Cross Keys but through my research of the area he came from in Armagh, Ireland I was told there is a place called Cross Keys not far from where the Morgan family lived.

John Morgan purchased the block of land from Crown Grantee, William Jones, on the 10th of October 1859 for ₤81.  Read more here
I'm not sure if anything was on the land between him purchasing it and being granted the license in 1871.

On my wish list of books at Gould is Carole Rileys "Land research for family historians.



The Morgan's didn't seem to have the luck of the Irish even though Alice's brothers had done quite well with prospecting.   Michael Kelly had done quite well at the Kimberley in South Africa and Thomas Kelly in the New Zealand gold rushes.
  
In 1872 John and Alice Morgan's young daughter Margaret died of convulsions at the age of five.

John Morgan died of chronic alcoholism in 1880.  His wife Alice  then took over the license. 

In 1886 their second son Alexander moved to New Zealand where he was employed by the treasury department until his retirement.  It seems he had gone to join his Uncle Thomas Kelly.

Alice had a tough time in 1900 losing both her eldest son Francis Edward Morgan at 41 years of age and her youngest daughter Agnes age 25.  That year she was also fined ₤2 for selling under proof Brandy. Alice died in 1904 

Their son John Felix Morgan then became licensee but in 1907 he tragically drowned in the Hotel's water tank.  His wife Margaret (nee O'Meara) then took over the license until sometime around the mid to late 1920s.  I'm not sure if Margaret sold the pub or just closed it.  She and John had no children to hand it on to and and a new Hotel was built on the old site in about 1929 according to an article in the Argus newspaper.

Very helpful sites for researching Publicans are:
The  Cole-Tetlow Index of hotel records at the State Library of Victoria.
Sue O'Neill's Publican Index of 19th Century Victoria
and of course Trove  for the newspaper articles about licensing and excise matters.

my paternal grandparents.


Papa

As today is the 23rd ofAugust I must add to this post a birthday remembrance for my much loved paternal grandfather. 

James (Jim) Forsyth was born James Richard Musson on this day in 1906 at Belfast, Canterbury, New Zealand.

He died on the 16th of August 1976 here in Victoria, Australia.

My grandmother Brenda, nee Adams (pictured) was the grand daughter of John and Alice Morgan who owned the Pub.






 My family history through the alphabet list