Family stories - William and Hepzebah HULME - Ned Kelly country.

In many families, a story will often be passed down over the years that may never have been proven one way or another.  

My great great great grandparents were William Cluff  HULME and Hepzebah nee LAND who emigrated to Australia from Putney, England in 1862.  

They came out to join other family members.  Their son, my great great grandfather, Joseph HULME, who had arrived with his maternal uncle Arthur LAND, two years earlier and William's brother, Edward HULME who was married to Hepzebah's sister, Jemima nee LAND.

They had all settled in the Oxley/King Valley area of North East Victoria,  which is where the Kelly Gang was based.  Many of the people of the district were sympathisers as they saw first hand the police harassment and persecution of the Kelly family.  

Some years ago a fellow HULME family member was extremely generous in sharing with me, his research, and that given to him by an earlier HULME family historian.  Thank you Peter!

I hadn't heard it before but the family story passed down his line was that William and Hepzebah HULME had paid the fine for Ellen Kelly, mother of Australian bushranger, Ned Kelly, after the Fitzpatrick incident.

I am assuming the word 'fine' would mean bail but am open to correction.

A book I have just finished reading about Ellen Kelly, written by Noelene Allen, Ellen- A woman of spirit (pg 114), states that Greta farmers William Dinning and his brother in law Robert Graham paid Ellen Kelly's bail in Winter of 1878.

This detail was also stated in the book Ned Kelly written by Peter FitzSimons,   These authors had done their research so I thought I would try to find some evidence.  

The Public Records Office of Victoria came up trumps with the following document.

If  'fine' means 'bail' then this document appears to disprove the family story.

PROV, VPRS 4966 Consignment P0 Unit 1 Item 4 Document: Ellen Kelly – Recognizance of bail 21/05/1878
Reproduced with the permission of the Keeper of Public Records, Public Record Office Victoria, Australia. 

RECOGNIZANCE OF BAIL.BE IT REMEMBERED, That on the thirty first day of May in the year of our Lord One thousand eight hundred and seventy eight Ellen Kelly Of Greta, in the Colony of Victoria, and William Dinning Farmer of Greta, in the said Colony and Robert Graham Farmer of Greta, in the said Colony personally came before the undersigned, one of Her Majesty’s Justices of the Peace for the Northern Bailiwick, of the said Colony, and severally acknowledged themselves to owe to our Lady the Queen the several sums following:the said Ellen Kelly the sum of Fifty pounds, and the said William Dinning and Robert Graham the sum of Fifty pounds each of good and lawful money of Great Britain, to be made and levied of their several goods and chattels, lands and tenements, respectively, to the use of our said Lady the Queen, Her Heirs and Successors, if she, the said Ellen Kelly fail in the condition endorsed.Taken and acknowledged the day and year first above mentioned, at Beechworth in the said Colony, beforeW. Foster P.M. J.P.

PROV, VPRS 4966 Consignment P0 Unit 1 Item 4 Document: Ellen Kelly – Recognizance of bail 21/05/1878
Reproduced with the permission of the Keeper of Public Records, Public Record Office Victoria, Australia. 

The condition of the within-written Recognizance is such,That whereas the said Ellen Kelly was on the 17th day of May instant charged before R. McBean and W. Little Justices within mentioned, for that she, the said Ellen Kelly on the Fifteenth day of April, in the year of our Lord One thousand eight hundred and seventy eight, at Greta in the colony aforesaid, did aid and abett one Edward Kelly in an attempt to murder one Alexander Fitzpatrick at Greta in the Colony aforesaid.if therefore the said Ellen Kelly will appear at the next Court of Assize to be helded at Beechworth, in and for the Northern Bailiwick of the Colony of Victoria, on the Ninth day of October, and there surrender herself into the custody of the keeper of the common gaol there, and plead to such information as may be filed against her for and in respect of the charge aforesaid, and take her trial upon the same, and not depart the said Court without leave, then the said Recognizance to be void, or else to stand in full force and virtue.

I would love to know what my fellow HULME family researchers think.

52 Ancestors week 8 - Good deeds Joan OSTER.

My subject for "Good Deeds" is my late Mum

Joan OSTER, nee FLEMING. (1937 - 2012)

Mum was a volunteer in the kiosk at Goulburn Valley Health (formerly Goulburn Valley Base Hospital).  

In later years, along with my stepdad, she also volunteered for several years at the Revamp Opportunity shop in Shepparton which is run by The Bridge Youth Service organisation.

Miss you Mum xxx

Always Loved, Always Remembered.

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Can you help identify these photos?

Taken by Marlborough Studios, 125 Swanston St. Melbourne.

These two photos belonged to my great grand uncle, Alexander Morgan. and were very kindly sent to me, along with some letters, by Alexander's great granddaughter, Mary.

The first man seated was identified by Merron of Western District Families Blog as Melbourne's Catholic Archbishop Daniel Mannix.


Merron was certain it wasn't taken at Mannix house "Raheen".

This photo may be an extension of the photo above it in which what looks like a schoolboys knee can be seen sitting on steps of the verandah.

A discussion amongst genealogy friends on my facebook page has a consensus of early to mid 1920s for a date with the cloche hats.

I sent a query to Rachel Naughton, Archivist & Museum Manager at the Melbourne Diocesan Historical Commission

She agreed that the first man was definitely Daniel Mannix.  She couldn't identify the venue but thought it looked a little like the opening of Corpus Christi College Seminary at Werribee.

 She wrote:  
"The first photo looks very much like the opening of Corpus Christi College Seminary ay Werribee in 1923.  Another important building opening was that of Newman College 1918 but it looks like CCC 1923.

I wonder if the first is also at CCC Werribee but possibly not the day of the opening because Mannix was involved in the ceremonies. The group look like they are all watching something happening out in the garden.

The date range is the early-mid 1920s.

I hope this is of some assistance."

  We can't find any suitable photos of the mansion that would confirm this.

A connection to the owner of the photos, Alexander Morgan, was the Tobin family of St. Kilda East.  Amongst the photos, there were letters of condolence to his wife, Lavinia, on the event of his death in 1929.   Alexander and Lavinia Morgan's second daughter was a Mary, was a sister of the order of the Sacred Heart.  Mary did her 'profession' in Melbourne around 1927. 

In their letters, the Tobin sisters say that Pat phoned to tell them of Mr. Morgan's death and they ask if Mary is back in New Zealand yet.  

I found that Norah and Mary Ursula Tobin were Aunts of Father Patrick Loughnan.  
St Roch’s School opened in 1924 near Sacre Coeur and at its present site in Glen Iris in 1930.  It is named after St Roch, a 13th-century French saint. Roch was also the second name of the founding pastor, Father Patrick Roch Loughnan, who was Parish Priest from 1927 to 1958. 

Historian Lenore Frost said the photo brought to her mind a similar but smaller occasion of a Priest installation where a group of men were pictured standing on the tiny wooden verandah of a timber house in one photo, and a bunch of ladies and children standing on the lawn in the other photo.  

This made me wonder if it could have been taken at Sacré Cœur or Brynmawr, perhaps the installation of Father Loughnan, so I sent an email query to their archivist Barbara Kowalski.  Barbara was sure the photo wasn't taken there as she said the features in the verandahs are not at all the same.
 and
"On a different tangent (as is often the case with history) we have donations in our chapel from the Misses Tobin who you mention – Nora and Mary donated  windows, communion rails, marble pedestals. In addition,  Margaret Loughman (who was a student here) is a co donor with the Tobins of  the pedestals.  I also wondered if the Morgans in your family are related to  Robert Morgan who for a while owned the original school building here “Brynmawr”? This is before it was purchased by the nuns. Although I guess Morgan was perhaps a common name. Robert Morgan owned quite an extensive parcel of land in this area."

So still no luck identifying where the photos were taken.  I haven't come across a Robert Morgan in the family history.  Another avenue to keep in mind.

I wonder if these photos may have been sent to New Zealand by the Tobin sisters.

52 Ancestors week 7 - Forbidden Love

My husband's great grandfather Bernard Riley, was a Catholic Irishman from County Down.

It isn't known when he arrived in Australia but there he met his love, Jane Russell, an Australian girl born to Irish Protestant parents Samuel Russell and Jane nee Moore.
Samuel and Jane, with their first three children, emigrated to Australia in 1838 on the ship Mandarin.

Samuel Russell, had a farm at Ceres in the Barrabool hills near Geelong.  It is not known how or exactly where Jane and Bernard Riley met, but it seems they eloped which no doubt would have caused quite a stir in her family.

Jane was only 16 years old when their first son John (Jack) Riley was born.  His birth doesn't seem to have been registered.

Their next three children, Margaret - 1860, William - 1862 (my husband's grandfather) and James - 1864 were all born at Warrnambool, Victoria and baptised there at the St. Joseph's Catholic Church.

There are no photos of Bernard and Jane but below is a photo of their eldest daughter Margaret.  I think Jane would have been a very beautiful young girl.

Jane died of heart disease during her last pregnancy in 1870.
Bernard Riley's deposition at coroner's inquest of  the death his wife.  16th day of April A.D. 1870
I am a labourer residing at Bullarook Forest.  I am the husband of the deceased.  I brought her yesterday afternoon into the Daylesford hospital.  I saw the resident surgeon, he said my wife was dying.  I brought her to the hospital as an oupatient and Dr. McGregor prescribed for her - I wanted my wife to come into the hospital three weeks ago but would not saying she would be rather at home.  signed Bernard Riley his mark.

The loss of his wife was more than Bernard could bear.  He died at the Ararat Asylum nine years later.

It was reported by a local farmer that he was going from fence to fence gathering wood and from his manner he judged him to be a lunatic.

Constable William Stoddart "went to the place and arrested him by the road side where he was sitting.  He was then quite silly and vacant? in his conversation.  He was then charged with vagrancy and remanded  ...? with a view to medical examination.  31st day of May 1879"

He died at the Ararat Asylum nine years later.
Bernard Reilly was admitted to the Ararat Lunatic Asylum on the 5th of July 1879, he was paralysed and very weak.  He took a bad change on the 29th and was ordered to bed where he gradually sank and died at 3.45pm on 2nd September, 1879.  I was present at death.  Signed Richard Hill, attendant at Asylum

Cause of Bernard's death was given as "Disease of the brain"

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Birthday remembrance

Remembering the birthday of my paternal grandmother, Brenda Mary FORSYTH nee ADAMS.

Brenda was the second youngest child of John and Mary Agnes ADAMS nee MORGAN.

She was born at 35 Smith Street Kensington, Victoria on the 12th of February 1905 and died on the 1st of March 1999.

 Brenda and Jim  

 

 

52 Ancestors week 6 - So far away - Mary KELLY nee MOLOUGHNEY

My great great great grandmother, Mary KELLY nee MOLOUGNEY is one I consider so far away both in distance and research results.

So I was incredibly excited to receive this photo of her last week.

It isn't the clearest photo, but it is something I never dreamt I would see.

Taken at Cashel Tipperary Ireland the photo was in the possession of her grandson, Alexander MORGAN in New Zealand.  Alex's mother was my great great grandmother, Alice MORGAN nee KELLY of Essendon, Victoria.

Mary MOLOUGHNEY married Cornelius KELLY at Dualla, Tipperary on the 6th of February 1834.

Cornelius died about 1851, but I haven't found a death for Mary yet.

Tipperary encumbered estate records on the IGP website show Cornelius listed as the late Cornelius KELLY.

Previously in the Griffith's Valuations he was leasing house land and offices from Matthew Pennefather who went into insolvency.

I haven't found any connections to the MOLOUGHNEY surname (spelling variations include Mulloughn(e)y/ Molloughny etc) I am told it is pronounced MoloKney.

Information from Irish records on their marriage and children's baptisms:

Cornelius Kelly and Mary Mulloughney married on the 6th of February 1834 in the Parish of Boherlahan Dualla
Witnesses to the marriage were Rev. D. Corcoran and Daniel Mahony

Margaret Alice Kelly
Baptised 10 Dec 1834, Dualla, Sponsors were Laurence Mockler and Judith Walsh

Michael Kelly
Baptised 18 Sep 1836, Dualla, Sponsors were Patrick Molloughney, Mary Mahony

Edmond Kelly
Baptised 16 Sep 1838, Dualla, Sponsors were Thomas Ryan, Julia Kelly.

John Kelly
Baptised 20 Jun 1840, Newpark, Sponsors were William Mahony, Mary Ryan

Thomas Kelly
Baptised 1 Jan 1843, Dualla, Sponsors were Thomas Quinlan, Catherine Mulloughny

William Kelly

Baptised 6 Jan 1846, Dualla, Sponsors were Michael Kelly, Mary Ryan

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An old treasure

"Advance Australia - Album of Melbourne Views."

In a packet of family history documents I received from New Zealand recently was this little book.

It was sent to my great grand uncle, Alexander Morgan in New Zealand by his mother, 

Alice Morgan nee Kelly, who was my great great grandmother.

On the back page was written "To Alick with Love from Mother, Jan 10, 1893".

The little book contains some very amazing, very early pictures of Melbourne.

   

   

Many thanks to Mary for the parcel.