Moloughney's from Ireland

Calling any descendants of Moloughney's from Tipperary Ireland.

For quite a few years now I have been trying to find more information on my paternal 3rd great-grandmother's ancestry.

Mary Mulloughny, in various records also spelt Moloughny or Moloughney, was born in Ireland, most likely County Tipperary.

In Dualla, near Cashel in County Tipperary in 1834, Mary married Cornelius Kelly.


If they followed the traditional Irish naming pattern, Mary's father's name may have been Edmond and mother Margaret.

Mary Kelly nee Moloughney, my 3rd great-grandmother.

Mary's daughter Margaret "Alice" Kelly, my 2nd great-grandmother.

They had a daughter they named Margaret Alice Kelly, later known as Alice.  Alice emigrated to Melbourne, Australia and married there in 1858.  Her younger brothers later followed her to Australia.  Further information about Alice, her brothers and children  HERE.

Alice and her husband, John Morgan from Armagh, Northern Ireland, were licensees of the original Cross Keys Hotel in North Essendon, a suburb of Melbourne.

https://morganandkellyfamilyhistories.weebly.com/

A fellow Moloughney family researcher, Nathaniel Miller and I have traded many jokes over the last few years about finding our families.  

A few months back someone in one of the Facebook genealogy groups suggested a file that was created back in 2001 by a Bill Moloughney who had gone to Ireland to research that family's origins in Tipperary.  

What a goldmine that was.   

It didn't actually lead to finding my Mary's direct ancestors but it did list many of the Moloughneys in Tipperary, their immigration to Fallowfield, Ottawa and New Brunswick in Canada and to Syracuse, New York in the U.S.A.

Recent DNA matches in a couple of the different companies have shown that my Dad, me and my brother share DNA with several of the descendants of these Moloughneys who settled in Canada.

I have sent them messages, now waiting impatiently for replies.  

52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks - Week 4 : Invite to Dinner

I have so many questions that I'd like to invite every one of my deceased ancestors to a huge dinner party but that's being a bit greedy isn't it.

So the relative I would choose to invite to dinner is my great-great-great-grandmother Mary KELLY nee MOLOUGHNEY.

Photo courtesy of Mary Stacey and the Lavin family, who are also great-great-great grandchildren of Mary and Cornelius Kelly.

Mary was born sometime in the early 1800s, somewhere in Ireland, possibly Tipperary.

I don't know when or where Mary died.

I'm extremely nosey so I would like to ask her: 

1.  When and where she was born, who her parents and siblings were and what her childhood was like.

2.  How she met her husband, Cornelius Kelly, what he was like, how he died and where he is buried.  

3.  About their life together in Tipperary.

4.  How they managed through the Great Famine?

5.  More about her 6 known children.

6.  About her relatives, friends and neighbours.

7.  How are the Moloughneys related who are mentioned in the baptisms of her children?

8.  Did her son Edmond Kelly remain in Tipperary whilst his siblings all emigrated or did he die young?

9.  How did she cope with all her children emigrating so far away?

10. Where did she die and where is she buried?

What I have found since beginning my research is that Mary MOLOUGHNEY married Cornelius KELLY at Dualla, Tipperary on the 6th of February 1834.

Cornelius was deceased by 1851, but I haven't found a death for Mary yet.

Tipperary encumbered estate records on the IGP website show Cornelius listed in November 1851 as the late Cornelius KELLY. 

Previously in Griffith's Valuations, he was leasing house land and offices from Matthew Pennefather who went into insolvency.

The MOLOUGHNEY surname (spelling variations include Mulloughn(e)y/ Molloughny etc) I am told it is pronounced MoloKney, is still evident in Tipperary and according to research by Bill Moloughney many Tipperary Moloughneys emigrated to America, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

Information from Irish records on their marriage and children's baptisms:

Cornelius Kelly and Mary Mullouhgney/Moloughney married on the 6th of February 1834 in the Parish of Boherlahan Dualla

Witnesses to the marriage were Rev. D. Corcoran and Daniel Mahony

Margaret Alice Kelly

Baptised 10 Dec 1834, Dualla, Sponsors were Laurence Mockler and Judith Walsh

Michael Kelly

Baptised 18 Sep 1836, Dualla, Sponsors were Patrick Mulloughney, Mary Mahony

Edmond Kelly

Baptised 16 Sep 1838, Dualla, Sponsors were Thomas Ryan, Julia Kelly.

John Kelly

Baptised 20 Jun 1840, Newpark, Sponsors were William Mahony, Mary Ryan

Thomas Kelly 

Baptised 1 Jan 1843, Dualla, Sponsors were Thomas Quinlan, Catherine Mulloughny

William Kelly

Baptised 6 Jan 1846, Dualla, Sponsors were Michael Kelly, Mary Ryan

My Irish Catholic Family

My paternal great-great-grandfather, JOHN MORGAN was born in 1829 at Derrynoose, Armagh, Ireland

His parents were Alexander MORGAN and Ann LENNON.

John was baptised on the 30 June 1829 at Derrynoose.

Sponsors were James LENNON and Mary MORGAN.

John died on the 24 Feb 1880 at the Cross Keys Hotel, Essendon, Victoria, Australia

Cause of death - Chronic alcoholism

Buried Melbourne General Cemetery

Denomination - Roman Catholic
There was a Cross Keys road not far from John's home town of Derrynoose in Armagh.


Cross Keys:  A common sign in Christian heraldry, referring to St. Peter, to whom Jesus said: "I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven".  The papal arms show crossed keys.
Click here for more information on Cross Keys coat of arms of the Holy See.

John married Margaret Alice Kelly on the 30th of June 1858 at St. Francis Church, Melbourne, Victoria.

St, Francis Church, Melbourne [picture] / printed from stone by Thos Ham.

Thomas Ham 1821-1870, lithographer.

http://handle.slv.vic.gov.au/10381/108235

MARGARET "ALICE" KELLY was born in 1834 Tipperary, Ireland

Parents - Cornelius KELLY and Mary MULLOUGHNEY/MOLOUGHNEY
Cornelius KELLY was a farmer who leased house, land, and office from Matthew Penefather at Fussough, Tipperary until about 1851.

Mary KELLY nee MOLOUGHNEY mother of Margaret "Alice" KELLY

Alice died on the 30 Sept 1904 at the 

Cross Keys Hotel, Essendon, Victoria, Australia

Photo courtesy of Coburg Historical Society.

Margaret "Alice" MORGAN nee KELLY
Photo courtesy of her 3rd great-granddaughter,
the late Brigid SIMPSON, nee LAVIN, of New Zealand

Margaret "Alice" Kelly
Baptised 10 Dec 1834, Dualla, Sponsors were Laurence Mockler and Judith Dwyer (vicc Judith Mulloughney) which I am told means "standing in for"   So it seems that Judith Dwyer was standing in for Judith Mulloughney.

Alice's father's death may have been the reason for her migrating to Australia some time in the early 1850s.  I have not yet found any information on her mother, Mary nee Moloughney, so I don't know where the younger boys lived between their father's death and their migration to Australia in 1858.

Michael Kelly
Baptised 18 Sep 1836, Dualla, Sponsors were Patrick Molloughney, Mary Mahony
He arrived in Australia in about 1897 only six months before his death of TB.
Did he go to South Africa directly from Ireland or, like his brothers, did he come to Australia first and then head to South Africa?

Edmond Kelly
Baptised 16 Sep 1838, Dualla, Sponsors were Thomas Ryan, Julia Kelly.
No further information found as yet on Edmond Kelly.

John Kelly 
Baptised 20 Jun 1840, Newpark, Sponsors were William Mahony, Mary Ryan.   He married Mary ANN FRANCIS.  John died in 1905 at Yackandandah, Victoria

Thomas Kelly
Baptised 1 Jan 1843, Dualla, Sponsors were Thomas Quinlan, Catherine Mulloughny. Thomas emigrated to New Zealand in 1861. He married Juliana BASSETT. Thomas's New Zealand death certificate was the only way I found out the name of the townland in Tipperary that the KELLY'S came from.

William Kelly
6 Jan 1846, Dualla, Sponsors were Michael Kelly, Mary Ryan.  William died at Longreach, Queensland in 1899, a miner and a bachelor.

The three younger brothers arrived in Australia on the 15th June 1858 on board the ship Rising Sun.
They had arrived just in time for their older sister's wedding on the 30th of June that same year.

John's age was given as 15 or 16
Thomas was age 13
William age 12

Alice and some of her other family members are buried Melbourne General Cemetery

Photo courtesy of Chel Indikt (member of a Facebook genealogy group)

The Morgan family grave is at the Melbourne General Cemetery.

Roman Catholic, Section F, Grave C53 C54

MORGAN

Erected by

Alice

in memory of her beloved husband

John MORGAN

died at Essendon

24 Feb 1880

age 48 yrs

also their second daughter

Alice

died 5 Nov 1872

age 6 yrs

also

Michael KELLY

died at Essendon

19 Apr 1898

age 59 yrs

also their dearly beloved youngest daughter

Agnes Mary Magdelen MORGAN

died at Essendon

30 Apr 1900

age 24 yrs

also their son

Francis

died at Essendon

11 Jun 1900 age 40 yrs

also the beloved mother of above

Alice MORGAN

died at Essendon

30 Sep 1904

age 69 yrs. 

J Hanson (stonemason)

John and Alice's 2nd son, Alexander MORGAN, was found to be in New Zealand along with Thomas KELLY, another of Alice's brothers.

Alice's brother, John KELLY, was found to be in Gippsland at around the time of John Morgan's death in 1880.

John Morgan had arrived in Australia on the ship Calliance on the 31st of December 1855 along with his 2 sisters, Margaret and Bridget.

John's occupation was listed as Agricultural Labourer and he was sponsored by a Mr. Dodd of Campbellfield.

Bridget (21 yrs) and Margaret  (19 yrs) both Farm Servants were sponsored by a Mrs. Morgan of Flinders Lane who was named as their sister in law.   This sister in law may well have been Mary Ellen Morgan, nee Hayes, who was married to a Felix Morgan.

The name Felix was used as a middle name for John Morgan's youngest son so it most likely was a family name along with Francis.
According to another family researcher, Phil Morgan, Felix may have been known as Patrick as this nicknaming went on in future generations.  We can find no baptism record for Felix but there is one for a Patrick in 1827 which, within reason, fits with Felix documented age in Australia and his immigration record.

Felix (25 yrs) Agricultural Labourer,  and Mary (24 yrs) possibly arrived on the ship Truro in January 1854 - they were sponsored by a Mrs. Vivian of Hawthorn. Felix and Patrick may have been either the same person or if brothers, Patrick may have remained in Ireland.

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Bridget Morgan was baptised at Derrynoose, Armagh on the 1st of February 1833.
Sponsors were Bernard and Ann  BARKA (sic) - (Church baptism record)
Bridget married a Bernard Clark in Victoria in 1859.
They had 2 children at Inglewood, Victoria.
Margaret born 1861
Peter born 1863.
Bridget died in 1863, perhaps from complications of childbirth.

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Margaret Morgan married a Thomas Gaffney at Inglewood on the 24th of September 1863.
They had 7 children, of which the last 3 were known to be born at Euroa in Victoria.  Margaret died on the 31st of March 1912 at Collingwood in Victoria.
The Gaffneys are also buried at Melbourne General Cemetery.
I found no baptism record for Margaret.
Hopefully one day more information or a DNA match will come to light.

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In both John and Margaret's Victorian certificates Alexander Morgan's occupation is Farmer.

There is also a baptism record for Patrick Morgan at Derrynoose on the 1st of February 1827.  Parents Alexander Morgan and Nancy Lennon.
Sponsors were Bernard Morgan and Rose McGeough.  I haven't found further information on Patrick unless of course, he is actually Felix.
(The joys of genealogy)

On the 8th of December 1846 an Ann Morgan was baptised, daughter of Alick Morgan and Nancy Lennon. Sponsors were Ann and Francis Morgan.

Imagine my excitement after doing an autosomal DNA test with FamilyTreeDNA and finding Dad and I matched at the right amount of shared centimorgans to be 3rd cousins and 3rd cousins once removed with Kathleen and her cousin Marcella who were descendants of Ann Morgan from Armagh.  Ann emigrated to the United States of America in 1865.
We all also share a DNA match with Shirley and her daughter Shaun who are descendants of a Margaret Morgan also of Keady Parish, Armagh. Margaret may well be a first cousin of John Morgan.  Unless of course, I am totally wrong about the Margaret who came to Australia being John's sister.

Photo of Ann is courtesy of her 3xgreat grandson, David Kurtz.

On the 27th of September 1869 Ann married John Courtney in Pennsylvania.  They went on to have six children and lived their lives at Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.

Death notice from the Mellon family history collection.

John and Alice's children Francis Edward Morgan and Agnes Margaret Morgan who both died in 1900. Photos from LAVIN family collection.

John and Alice's eldest son Francis was born 1860 at Hawstead.
He had two daughters with the char-woman of the Cross Keys Hotel in 1879 and 1881.
He married Emily BENNETTO in 1886 and they had a son and a daughter.
DNA matches with descendants of Francis Edward Morgan confirm our relationships and paper trail.

Alexander Morgan, second eldest son of John and Alice.
Photo from LAVIN family collection.

Alexander was born in 1862 at Moonee Ponds.  He joined his maternal Uncle, Thomas KELLY in New Zealand where he married Lavinia STUART.
He worked for many years as accountant for the New Zealand Treasury Department.

Alexander's daughter, Mary Agnes MORGAN became a very much loved sister with the Roman Catholic Order of the Society of the Sacred Heart.

This photo was amongst Alexander Morgan's collection.  It shows a group of men at an unknown location.  The closest man in the photo is the Archbishop of Victoria, Daniel Mannix

Family friend of the Morgan's was Father Patrick Loughnan of St. Roch's

My great grandmother,  Mary Agnes Adams nee Morgan,
eldest daughter of John and Alice Morgan.
Photo from LAVIN family collection.

John Felix Morgan, youngest son of John and Alice.
Photo from LAVIN family collection. John tragically drowned in the Cross Keys Hotel water tank in 1907.  His widow, Margaret nee O'MEARA carried on as the final licensee of the original Cross Keys Hotel.  They had no children.

I found one Alexander Morgan at Rowan, Derrynoose in the Griffiths Valuation for Ireland and a death record for 1870 in the Parish of Keady.

Derrynoose RC church is included in Parish of Keady.

Also in that Parish was the death of an Agness Morgan in 1869.

© Copyright Dean Molyneaux and licensed for reuse under this Creative Commons Licence.

Derrynoose Roman Catholic Church, Armagh, Ireland

I cannot confirm if this Alexander and Agness Morgan are my ancestors though. 

This post is my contribution to Alexandra Daw's 

#NFHM Blogging Challenge Week 1 - Poor Man's Orange

A Kelly conundrum

When I began researching my Kelly ancestors from Tipperary, Ireland I was extremely lucky to have been given transcriptions from the Parish registers of the Catholic baptisms of my great great grandmother and her siblings as well as the marriage of their parents.

My 3rd great grandparents Cornelius KELLY and Mary nee MOLOUGHNEY had 6 children.  These baptism images are now available online at the National Library of Ireland so I have been through and found the originals which pretty much agree with the transcriptions I received.

Margaret "Alice" KELLY (my great great grandmother)
Baptised 10 Dec 1834, Dualla, Sponsors were Laurence Mockler and Judith Dwyer (vicc Judith Mulloughney) which I am told means "standing in for"  So it seems that Judith Dwyer was standing in for Judith Mulloughney. Or was her maiden name Mulloughney?
Alice emigrated to Australia and married John MORGAN in Melbourne in 1858.

Michael Kelly
Baptised 18 Sep 1836, Dualla, Sponsors were Patrick Molloughney, Mary Mahony.
He arrived in Australia in about 1897 only six months before his death from TB and was living with his widowed sister Alice.

Edmond Kelly
Baptised 16 Sep 1838, Dualla, Sponsors were Thomas Ryan, Julia Kelly.
No further information found as yet on Edmond Kelly.

John Kelly 
Baptised 20 Jun 1840, Newpark, Sponsors were William Mahony, Mary Ryan.  Emigrated to Australia in 1858 with his two younger brothers.  He married Mary Ann FRANCIS in 1869.

Thomas Kelly 
Baptised 1 Jan 1843, Dualla, Sponsors were Thomas Quinlan, Catherine Mulloughny.  Emigrated to New Zealand from Australia in 1861 where he married Juliana Bassett.

William Kelly 
6 Jan 1846, Dualla, Sponsors were Michael Kelly, Mary Ryan Dualla.
I am fairly certain he died a bachelor in Queensland in 1899.

Australian marriage and death certificates for Alice name parents as Cornelius Kelly and Mary Moloughney as does the New Zealand death certificate for Thomas.

Edmund I haven't yet found.

Michael's parents are listed as unknown on his Australian death certificate by his nephew John MORGAN Junior.

The death certificate that I believe belongs to William Kelly (can be seen on link on his name) names parents as Con Kelly and Mary O'Laughlin (a variant of Moloughney)

The conundrum is with John Kelly.  Why did he give this information on his marriage certificate to Mary Ann FRANCIS in Victoria in 1869?
He states he was born in Waterford, Ireland and his parents were Cornelius Kelly and Mary Brien or O'Brien.

John's death certificate in Victoria 1905 states he was born in Tipperary, father Cornelius, mother not known. The informant's names aren't familiar but they were present at the coronial inquiry into his death.

I do have the correct John Kelly as information in newspaper articles about his death connect him to his sister Alice and brother Thomas.
Also I have DNA matches with some of his descendants.

52 Ancestors week 6 - So far away - Mary KELLY nee MOLOUGHNEY

My great great great grandmother, Mary KELLY nee MOLOUGNEY is one I consider so far away both in distance and research results.

So I was incredibly excited to receive this photo of her last week.

It isn't the clearest photo, but it is something I never dreamt I would see.

Taken at Cashel Tipperary Ireland the photo was in the possession of her grandson, Alexander MORGAN in New Zealand.  Alex's mother was my great great grandmother, Alice MORGAN nee KELLY of Essendon, Victoria.

Mary MOLOUGHNEY married Cornelius KELLY at Dualla, Tipperary on the 6th of February 1834.

Cornelius died about 1851, but I haven't found a death for Mary yet.

Tipperary encumbered estate records on the IGP website show Cornelius listed as the late Cornelius KELLY.

Previously in the Griffith's Valuations he was leasing house land and offices from Matthew Pennefather who went into insolvency.

I haven't found any connections to the MOLOUGHNEY surname (spelling variations include Mulloughn(e)y/ Molloughny etc) I am told it is pronounced MoloKney.

Information from Irish records on their marriage and children's baptisms:

Cornelius Kelly and Mary Mulloughney married on the 6th of February 1834 in the Parish of Boherlahan Dualla
Witnesses to the marriage were Rev. D. Corcoran and Daniel Mahony

Margaret Alice Kelly
Baptised 10 Dec 1834, Dualla, Sponsors were Laurence Mockler and Judith Walsh

Michael Kelly
Baptised 18 Sep 1836, Dualla, Sponsors were Patrick Molloughney, Mary Mahony

Edmond Kelly
Baptised 16 Sep 1838, Dualla, Sponsors were Thomas Ryan, Julia Kelly.

John Kelly
Baptised 20 Jun 1840, Newpark, Sponsors were William Mahony, Mary Ryan

Thomas Kelly
Baptised 1 Jan 1843, Dualla, Sponsors were Thomas Quinlan, Catherine Mulloughny

William Kelly

Baptised 6 Jan 1846, Dualla, Sponsors were Michael Kelly, Mary Ryan

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William Kelly

WILLIAM KELLY

William Kelly was the youngest brother of my great great grandmother Alice Morgan (nee Kelly)

Their parents were Cornelius Kelly and Mary Moloughney of  Dualla, Ballysheehan, Tipperary.  Dualla is near Cashel.

William was baptised Roman Catholic on the 6th of January 1846 at Dualla.  Sponsors were Michael Kelly and Mary Ryan.  I don't know if this Michael Kelly was his older brother or another relative.

William had 4 older brothers.  Edmond I know nothing further about.  Michael went to South Africa.  He came to his sister in Australia 1898 where he died of Tuberculosis.  John and Thomas. 

 John, Thomas and William all traveled to Australia on the ship Rising Sun arriving on the 15th of June 1858 just in time for their sister Alice's wedding to John Morgan.

According to Michael Kelly's Will in 1898 his brother, William, was last known to be a speculator of West Australian Mining.

In 1905 a New Zealand newspaper notice said at the death of John Kelly that he was the beloved 'only' brother of Thomas Kelly.  We know that Michael had already died so I would assume that William was also deceased in 1905.

On further searching in the Queensland indexes I found the death of a William Kelly in 1899.  His parents were named as Con Kelly and Mary O'Loughlin.

I'm told the surname Molloughney is pronounced with the 'gh' as MolloKney which I have read is also interchangeable with McLaughlin etc.  This is the closest death entry I can find.

The age is out and I don't know when he left Victoria but death certificates are not always reliable.

I cannot be certain this is our William Kelly.  Hopefully one day further information may come to light.

Mulloughn(e)y surname in Tipperary

I am hoping to connect with any Mulloughny/Mulloughney researchers in Tipperary.

My great great great grandmother was Mary Mulloughney.  

All I know about her is that she married Cornelius Kelly in Dualla, Tipperary in 1834 and that Roman 

Catholic baptism records have been found for six children.

A couple of sponsors at these baptisms also had the surname Mulloughney.  Possibly related to Mary?

• Son Michael Kelly was baptised on 18 September 1836 at Dualla. Sponsors were Patrick Mulloughny and Mary Mahony.

• Son Thomas was baptised on 1 January 1843 at Dualla.  Sponsors were Thomas Quinlan and Catherine Mulloughny

I have found quite a few Patrick Mulloughney's in the Griffiths Valuation record, living at Twomileborris 

which is about 29 kilometres from Dualla (North East)

Travel Tuesday - It's a long way from Tipperary

In the 1850 Griffiths Valuation Cornelius Kelly was leasing house land and office from M Penefather at Fussough near Dualla, Ballysheehan, Tipperary.

Yellow highlighted area is roughly map reference 8 on the old Griffiths Valuation map.  This is where Cornelius Kelly's leasehold was situated in 1850.

Cornelius Kelly and his wife Mary Moloughney married on the 6th of February 1834.
Cornelius had died about 1851.
I haven't found when Mary died but perhaps it was about 1858 as her three youngest sons, John, Thomas and William Kelly, aged 18, 15 and 13 resepectively, sailed from Tipperary to Melbourne, Australia just in time for their older sister Margaret's wedding in June 1858.

Margaret Alice Kelly, (known as Alice) my great great grandmother, had moved to Australia possibly about 6 years earlier and their older brother Michael had gone to South Africa to make his fortune.  He remained a bachelor.

All the brothers except John were interested in mining.  Michael did well in Kimberley, South Africa but contracted Tuberculosis and came to his sister in Melbourne where he died in 1898, age 62,  leaving large sums of money to his remaining family members.  Read Michael's Will.

Meanwhile in 1861, Thomas headed for the New Zealand gold rushes where he was one of the discoverers of Noble's Rush on the Grey River in 1865.  Read Thomas' story. 

William it seems was also a miner but a bit more elusive than his brothers.  I have obtained one death certificate which may be him but perhaps I'll never know.  William's story.

John Kelly became a Tanner and it seemed he had a rather tragic life.  His wife and one daughter both died in Melbourne in 1888.  It is on my "to do list" to find out what happened to them.  As yet all I know is his daughter died from accidental burns.  John's story

DUALLA

Dualla - a charming village in Co. Tipperary, nestled in between the local Kill Hills, Slieve na Mbhan (the mountain of women), and the distant Galtees. A lovely, modern church, a beautiful Grotto erected by local people, a Community Centre, tennis court, all add to the picturesque village on the road between historic Cashel and Killenaule.

At the foot of the Kill Hills, which was once thickly populated, can be seen the remains of Killballyherbry Church, built in the 13th century. This church was in use for the locals before Dualla was built. There is a graveyard nearby, where many of our ancestors are buried.

There are various interpretations of the origin of Dualla, but a widely accepted one in Duche Ui Cheallaigh - the land of Kelly.

A few miles down the road as you approach the main Dublin road can be seen the ruins of a Cistercian Monastery in Ballykelly.

The chief attractions of Dualla are it's unspoilt beauty, and the warm, welcoming and friendly people, who are always ready to greet friend and stranger with a Céad Míle Fáilte.

Dualla sounds like a beautiful place and it is my dream to one day visit my great great grandmother's homeland.